Bots trading the same/identical results despite different settings/time bars

I have 5 bots that should be trading on different time bars (15m, 30m, 1hr, 2hr and 4hrs) and therefore should have very different trading patterns and profit %, and yet 4 out of 5 are trading on the exact same time bar (not sure which one).

I circled in red the different time bar each one of the buggy bots should be trading on as i make it part of the bot title for performance comparison convenience (Combine Ratings 2hr both sell, Combined Ratings 4hr both sell, Combined Ratings 15m both sell, and finally 30m both sell). As you can see all have almost identical performance and are creating the same deals at the exact same time, which absolutely should not be happening with such wildly different time bars as 15m vs 4hrs. The fact that the 1hr time bar seems to be working correctly also confirms the other 4 bots are buggy, as there is no way again the 1hr bar would provide different results while the 15m, 30m, 2hr and 4hr are identical. BTW, I tested something similar a few days ago and i didint have this issue

15min combined rating

4hr combined ratings

We’ve received your bug report regarding the bots trading with identical results despite different time bar settings. Thank you for providing the screenshots, they are very helpful. Could you please share the bot URLs for the affected bots? We will investigate this issue and provide an update shortly.

the 2hrs combined ratings bot
https://app.gainium.io/bot/67cbf633321d023a65385290?a=11668&aid=share-bot&share=8afe208f-2a7d-4551-a608-918157aafc64

4hrs combined ratings
https://app.gainium.io/bot/67cbf664321d023a65385d46?a=11668&aid=share-bot&share=f61485c5-faf8-45fb-80ec-b9d4147f46a2

15min one
https://app.gainium.io/bot/67cbf6ab321d023a65386b4b?a=11668&aid=share-bot&share=671ebaf1-77b6-4f79-b7b2-a3138868ac76

30m one
https://app.gainium.io/bot/67cbf6ce321d023a6538700e?a=11668&aid=share-bot&share=d02c1aba-74df-46d8-8b48-25d5447c5dcb

Something is definitely very wrong how the Combine Ratings for the sell side are calculated.

In the photo below, i circled in yellow for the buy (long) side, the total deals for combined ratings from 15m all the way to 4hrs and the number of deals varies as it should, going from a high of 214 deals for a 15min combined ratings period to a low of 75 deals for 4hrs

I also circled in red the number of deals on the sell side for combined ratings and the number of deals going from 15m to 4hrs is almost the same, varying from 280 to 291 over the same exact period of 4.5 days. Considering that the long side and short side bots are an exact mirror of each other, this should not be happening at all, and it indicates that its using the same time bar calculations on the short side for all combined ratings, regardless whats actually specified

In all bots you have combined rating + MFI 1m.
So bot will open new deal every 1m, if MFI conditions are met and combined rating on its timeframe is true

Correct, everything else is identical in all bots, all started at the same time, combined rating is the only thing thats different. there is no way, over a period of 4 days, statistically speaking, that a 4hr bot should open a deal as often as a 15m bot, as the bots circled in red are doing. the ones circled in yellow are behaving correctly


You dont have limit per higher timeframe. Bot opened new deal each time MFI is true if previous combined rating is true

For example you can see that XRP 4hr combined rating is true since 07 Mar.
So every time MFI is triggereed it should open new deal

XRP 15m is true pretty often in the same period.

I’m here to check that everything works as expected, not to evaluate statistic. I can’t find any deal that was opened when it not supposed to.
If you have deal of which you have doubts, you can send it and I will investigate.

The bots circled in yellow are the mirror opposite of the ones circled in red, as they are trading on the long side vs the short side. And a 15min combined rating bot should be switching between both buy (true) to something else (both buy false) far more often than a 4hr combined rating bot. On the long side, circled in yellow, this is working correctly. you can see the 15m bot opened 75 deals vs 214 for the 4hr bot, as the 4hr bot will stay in both buy state (true) far longer. On the short side, circled in red, you cna see that all bots, regardless whether they are 15m or 4hr, they are opening deals at almost the exact same rate, indicating that both sell as true is on for all bots regardless of time frame . So it looks like the bots are behaving correctly , but there is something wrong with how the combined ratings are calculated on the short side (both sell as true)

NOTE: in my previous post, replying to you i said the bots circled in red are behaving correctly, and the ones in yellow incorrectly. thats a mistake, just woke up lol. its the other way around, im editing the post now

There was a post made by someone else that said. I have a feeling it might be related to this

"I have noticed on trading view technical ratings have main 5 values.

=>0.1 BUY
=>0.5 Strong buy
=0 Neutral
=<0.1 Sell
=< Strong Sell.

But When we choose both buy or both on gainium. I noticed it takes Neutral as “buy” as well. It will be beneficial if we keep both buy to equal or above 0.1 and for 0 we should neutral value there. And same goes for both sell."

This one:

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No this is not how it works inside. And neutral not included nor in sell or in buy.

I’ve checked some deals, not all. And I can’t find any deals that were opened when combined rating wasn’t true.

I can provide proof on backtest it took trades when on tradingview’s teachical rating was sell or neutral. In the article about combined ratings it has been mentioned that it is same as technical ratings on tradingview.

Yes please show exact example.

Just in case. Action takes place after candle is closed, but on the chart it’s colored on the same candle. Example, at 10:00 the result is sell, at 11:00 the result is buy. Candles background will red then blue. But sell action will be triggered at 11:00, buy - at 12:00

I completely understand it takes result from last candle closed. If last candle cloased at sell then next candle will print sell. I am show proof here waiting for bot to open


On 2nd march and on 6th march it produced buy alert on daily linksudt pair.



But on tradingview techinacl rating both daily candles were neutral. On technical rating if value is less than 0.1 it prints neutral. You can check it yourself.

This is not the indicator that was used as ref for our combined rating.

According to this article it is same indicator

We did not used the indicator you show as ref.
I thought that the problem that on Gainium side chart you can see neutral, but bot act like its buy. What you can see on Gainum chart is our selves made indicator, based on custom tradingview indicator.
You have parameter called check level. Combined rating calculating points of each indicator used inside. Based on check level param and sum of points, there are 5 output values of indicator.
You can try to change the check level to match the other indicator you want.