Bug info: The DCA lines are supposed to be 2% apart. All the bottom lines are over 2% apart. I have tried editing, restarting. etc…but cannot get the lines to be 2% apart.
I observed something similar and don’t know whether it’s an issue of the additional objects in the chart or whether the calculations are wrong. Maybe we have to check the example steps of a deal, whether the calculated levels are as expected.
This seems to be a problem with combo bots. Grid bots and DCA bots do not seem to have these problems. I have been in this combo bot since June and am hoping coin prices rebound soon so i can get out from under it and go back to the DCA bot, where we can add funds and doesn’t seem to have problems. When I first started the bot, the amount used was half of my funds, which I intended to use. I checked back 2 days later and found out the bot was using much more and discovered when I first started the bot and was setting it up, the amount of funds to use was not automatically updating while setting up the bot. By then it was too late because the prices had dropped quickly and many buys had been made. Users should doublecheck this when setting up a combo bot.
Yes, the overview about the bot’s fund usage should always be visible and correctly updated already while configuring bots. This info is too important too be hidden in a subsection. And also the chart should not trick us with wrong information.
Yes. And what we direly need after this huge price drop over the last few months is a way to reset the bot so that it will reset to our settings. I have lines that are 2% apart, 4% apart, 1% apart, etc. I am not sure if the devs took into account a huge 70% drop when the combo bot was developed.
This is not a bug. DCA spacing calculated based on initial price. In this case 2% from intial price. This way spacing is even (of course if step scale is 1).
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spacing is around 0.2
I am not sure what you are saying. As you can see by the photo, spacing is over 4% and the lower one is 10% and I have no way to change that.
The spacing is not measured from one line to the next, but from the entry price.
Thanks. I am not sure what to do now since it is very difficult to make a trade.
What do you mean by that? What’s the difference? Isn’t it a geometrical spacing?
You are right d yo r. I have no idea what he is talking about. What is the point of setting up order step % if the spacing between each line is not that? I hate to say it, but if I know a combo bot was this messy and complicated, I would never have came near it. I am stuck in a big mess.
Please take a look at first comment. Start price is 10. Spacing 2%, therefore spacing between orders 0.2 fixed. If we make even spacing 2% between each DCA, the spacing in absolute number will become less and less with each order.
If you change spacing of minigrids this change is not applied to current, only to newely created.
In the bot you have many changes. Each minigrids opens according to the current bot settings, therefore you have overlapping and different sizes/spacing of orders.
Yes, the absolute spacing may be smaller and smaller at it is for geometrical spacing. But only that makes sure that the required change stays the same. With a fix absolute/arithmetic spacing the required change increases the lower we go and decreases the higher the prices are.
I would expect that for initial price p and spacing e.g. d = -20 % change = 0.8:
f(0) = p
f(i) = f(i - 1) * d for i > 1
But why can’t it be like a grid…equally spaced apart? Now that the price is down 70%, if my spacing was 2%, as it is set, I could be making buys and sells and and my total profit% could be met more quickly. Without buys and sells, I could be caught in this bot for months to come. I know everyone is saying we will get a nice bump next month, but we never know what will happen. You should implement an update so that we can refresh the bot and it will match our current order step. If this keeps up, I am going to have to cancel the bot and begin selling my coins at small price increases.
That way the absolute diff between DCA will be lower with each step.
When we created a DCA bot we had an option to do it the way you described or equal absolute spacing. But the way you described (calculate from pervious price) gives unexpected and not obvious results, also the all competitors works with absolute diff.
You can actually achieve that by using step scal lower than 1
The main challenge with combo bot, that every minigrid is like separate grid bot and budget for the minigrid takend from DCA order. If we want to change params of minigrid we will need to recalculate budget and perhaps buy/sell remainder which will create a mess in deal unrealized pnl and calculations.
Thanks Maksym. I have a lot of respect for you and your coding skills. What you do is very difficult and I understand that the combo bot is very complicated and changing the code would be a headache and cause problems.
Are there other Combo bots like that of Gainium? Grid bots usually often offer arithmetic and geometric spacing where geometric spacing seems to be more appropriate to me because the deviation and accordingly the required change per step would stay the same for all grid levels.
How much effort would it be to use geometric spacing in Combo bot grids as well? Could you explain in more detail why you expect a geometric spacing to result in errors? Isn’t the code for the geometric already present in the Grid bot?
That’s how it is for grid bots:
Arithmetic - same absolute spacing
Geometric - same percentual spacing
By the way: Here is a bug report for the grid bot.
Yeah that would be great but it probably won’t happen. I have cancelled the combo bot and starting setting up sell orders to sell the funds incrementally when the price finally rebounds. Unfortunately, I did not research the comb bot enough to realize that in a severe downtrend, it does not function well enough for my needs.
